What "new" value can we create with AI? Brian, Justin, and Jordan talk about how we can be more creative and ambitious and build things we wouldn't have built before. We also chatted about Grok Bot and xAI's land grab (Cursor acquisition and the SuperGrok Heavy plan). Also... Brian broke up with Claude?! Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:34 - The sudden rise and appeal of Grokbot 11:49 - Claude fatigue and the shift toward chief-of-staff AI agents 14:55 - How product experience is replacing model quality in the AI race 18:09 - Cursor's speed advantage, pricing pain, and team switching costs 26:08 - Enterprise loyalty and why model quality will commoditize 43:44 - AI for autonomous entities, trust, and community integration 49:11 - Building AI-native vs. consumer vs. professional use cases 57:10 - Trust as the bottleneck in sensitive fields like personal finance 60:22 - Transistor's video launch, pricing model, and MCP integration 66:14 - Jordan's new capital deal and leveraging extra runway 72:12 - Customer success hiring and Builder Methods' non-developer expansion 90:15 - Wrap up YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com Links mentioned in this episode: Jesse Hanley – Marketer, developer, and creator. Introducing Grok Bot – SpaceXAI's latest release. Shaan Puri on AI Loyalty – A candid take on switching tools. Cursor – The top AI coding agent. Caleb Porzio's Work Notes – Why Cursor outpaces Codex. Amazon’s Anthropic Stake – IPO valuation insights. Polsia – AI that manages operations autonomously. Mostly Technical #145 – Exploring marketing as engineering.

Is there a potential SaaS pocalypse? How can we adapt to changes and leverage new models for growth? Jordan, Justin, and Brian explore the current state of the software market, private equity dynamics, and the impact of AI on valuations. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:01 Finding distribution is difficult on FB Marketplace and online 12:05 The future of building software with AI and agent-first design 16:07 Market entry strategies for new products 19:57 Unbundling SaaS and the new software delivery models 23:46 The role of internal tools and side projects 28:03 The SaaS pocalypse 32:00 SaaS valuations and market dynamics 36:01 Designing simple interfaces with powerful backend features 39:59 The evolving landscape of SaaS and market opportunities 51:25 Opportunities in the current market 1:03:00 Life updates YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com Links mentioned in this episode: Mimeo: Own your email marketing stack Flywrite | The writing app with a terminal built in LiveKit Platform Resend Buttondown  tiiny.host  Make IPOs Great Again Tiny  Anne Frank The Exhibition  Visit the Chicago Museum of Ice Cream MxPx Goldfinger

How's your funnel doing? Jordan and Brian are joined by Henry Poydar to chat about integrating human and autonomous agents, building and testing product prototypes in days, not years, the importance of flexible, adaptive funnels, and debate the future of SaaS, unbundling, and the agent-first software paradigm.  Timestamps: YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com Links mentioned in this episode: Steady HeyRosy Builder Methods OpenRoutines.dev Claude Flywrite Vanta Drip Bento Help Scout

What happens to the value of software when everyone can make software? Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome to The Panel 00:31 Brian’s Brighton Ruby trip 03:12 Building FlyWrite in the car 05:01 Why existing coding tools don’t work for writing 07:20 What FlyWrite actually does 11:37 Building version one with Fable 16:04 Jordan’s weekend build and first AI-native workflow 28:38 Claude Design and interactive prototyping 36:41 AI, software supply, and productivity 39:09 The Jeremy Giffin podcast episode 48:55 What AI means for Transistor and hosting 58:19 Google, Microsoft, Apple, and the AI distribution war 63:28 Figma, design careers, and the white-flag mindset 74:08 What happens to agencies and web designers 81:05 Transition pain vs. long-term upside 90:13 Becoming AI-native and where do displaced workers go? YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com Links mentioned in this episode: Superconductor faster.dev ConductorAI Cursor Flywrite Railway Base44 Lovable Wildbit Blog (Natalie Nagele) Harvey ROI Calculator Spots.fm Spots (2018 archive) Product People shoutout (2013 archive) Claude Design Invest Like the Best — Jeremy Giffon Gal Shir on X Chef hierarchy pyramid The widening productivity-pay gap

Justin and Jordan talk about how Jordan made a change to their funnel and increased sign ups dramatically, improving team communication, conducting better employee reviews, and developing better workflows for project handoffs between employees when AI is being used. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:45 Taking control of your funnel 05:24 Why trust matters in e-commerce 08:18 Optimizing the customer experience 19:10 Doubling sign-ups 23:08 Customer demand wins 25:34 Putting the credit card upfront 29:26 Customer demand and the funnel 31:56 Question your assumptions 35:00 Reviews, pay, and philosophy 44:14 Surviving survival mode 46:40 How we think about pay 49:00 Motivation and career growth 54:05 AI and developer ownership 01:00:54 Keeping the quality bar high 01:03:51 Building a culture of accountability YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com Links mentioned in this episode: Transistor.fm HeyRosy Claude AI Victor's Post on Market Pull Ryan Cohen Tony Fadell Cardhook The Walt Disney Company | Acquired