This week we start with Justin’s return to Twitter (November 28, so mark your calendars) and then dig into Brian Halligan coming back as HubSpot CEO to “refound” the company. Jordan walks us through why the move worries him, and we end up debating what it says about SaaS in a world where anyone can vibe-code their own CRM. Brian shares what he’s seeing from non-technical Builder Methods members building custom case management systems, and Jordan explains how we’re thinking about MCP at Rosie, including whether to build a chat box inside the app or let customers control it from Claude.
Chapters:
- (00:18) - Welcome and Danny Postma Shoutout
- (02:00) - HubSpot Refounding and Wartime CEOs
- (05:31) - SaaS Trends and Vibe Coding
- (17:00) - Open Source and Custom Solutions
- (22:30) - MCPs and Anthropic's Trojan Horse
- (34:21) - AI Costs and NVIDIA Situation
- (37:15) - Political Backlash and Data Centers
- (48:20) - AMP Week and Team Culture
- (58:51) - Builder Methods Coaching Launch
- (01:06:05) - Agent Reporting and Infrastructure
Links Mentioned in this episode:
- Ben Orenstein on X: "I'm back at @tuple as CEO!
- The Art of Product
- Less Annoying CRM | Simple Contact Management for Small Businesses
- Startup to Last
- GitHub - NYLLON-SOFTWARE/ember-cloudflare: Open Source Slack and Campfire inspired chat with one click deploy to Cloudflare
- Carrd - Simple, free, fully responsive one-page sites for pretty much anything
- A road trip through the data center debate — Search Engine
- Raising an Agent — a podcast by Quinn Slack and Thorsten Ball - Amp
- Agent Reports: Agents work everywhere. They report here